Chris Anderson: The rights of citizens, the future of the Internet. So I would like to welcome to the TED stage the man behind those revelations, Ed Snowden. (Applause) Ed is in a remote location somewhere in Russia controlling this bot from his laptop, so he can see what the bot can see. Ed, welcome to the TED stage. What can you see, as a matter of fact? Edward Snowden: Ha, I can see everyone. This is amazing. (Laughter) CA: Ed, some questions for you. You’ve been called many things in the last few months. You’ve been called a whistleblower, a traitor, a hero. What words would you describe yourself with? ES: You know, everybody who is involved with this debate has been struggling over me and my personality and how to describe me. But when I think about it, this isn’t the question that
we should be struggling with. Who I am really doesn’t matter at all. If I’m the worst person in the world, you can hate me and move on. What really matters here are the issues. What really matters here is the
kind of government we want, the kind of Internet we want, the kind of relationship between people and societies. And that’s what I’m hoping
the debate will move towards, and we’ve seen that increasing over time. If I had to describe myself, I wouldn’t use words like “hero.” I wouldn’t use “patriot,” and I wouldn’t use “traitor.” I’d say I’m an American and I’m a citizen, just like everyone else. CA: So just to give some context for those who don’t know the whole story — (Applause) — this time a year ago, you were stationed in Hawaii working as a consultant to the NSA. As a sysadmin, you had access to their systems, and you began revealing
certain classified documents to some handpicked journalists leading the way to June’s revelations. Now, what propelled you to do this? ES: You know, when I was sitting in Hawaii, and the years before, when I was
working in the intelligence community, I saw a lot of things that had disturbed me. We do a lot of good things
in the intelligence community, things that need to be done, and things that help everyone. But there are also things that go too far. There are things that shouldn’t be done, and decisions that were being made in secret without the public’s awareness, without the public’s consent, and without even our representatives in government having knowledge of these programs. When I really came to struggle with these issues, I thought to myself, how can I do this in the most responsible way, that maximizes the public benefit while minimizing the risks? And out of all the solutions that I could come up with, out of going to Congress, when there were no laws, there were no legal protections for a private employee, a contractor in intelligence like myself, there was a risk that I would be
buried along with the information and the public would never find out. But the First Amendment of
the United States Constitution guarantees us a free press for a reason, and that’s to enable an adversarial press, to challenge the government, but also to work together with the government, to have a dialogue and debate about how we can inform the public about matters of vital importance without putting our national security at risk. And by working with journalists, by giving all of my information back to the American people, rather than trusting myself to make the decisions about publication, we’ve had a robust debate with a deep investment by the government that I think has resulted in a benefit for everyone. And the risks that have been threatened, the risks that have been played up by the government have never materialized. We’ve never seen any evidence of even a single instance of specific harm, and because of that, I’m comfortable with the decisions that I made. CA: So let me show the audience a couple of examples of what you revealed. If we could have a slide up, and Ed, I don’t know whether you can see, the slides are here. This is a slide of the PRISM program, and maybe you could tell the audience what that was that was revealed. ES: The best way to understand PRISM, because there’s been a little bit of controversy, is to first talk about what PRISM isn’t. Much of the debate in the U.S.
has been about metadata. They’ve said it’s just metadata, it’s just metadata, and they’re talking about a specific legal authority called Section 215 of the Patriot Act. That allows sort of a warrantless wiretapping, mass surveillance of the entire country’s phone records, things like that — who you’re talking to, when you’re talking to them, where you traveled. These are all metadata events. PRISM is about content. It’s a program through which the government could compel corporate America, it could deputize corporate America to do its dirty work for the NSA. And even though some of
these companies did resist, even though some of them — I believe Yahoo was one of them — challenged them in court, they all lost, because it was never tried by an open court. They were only tried by a secret court. And something that we’ve seen, something about the PRISM program
that’s very concerning to me is, there’s been a talking point in the U.S. government where they’ve said 15 federal judges have reviewed these programs
and found them to be lawful, but what they don’t tell you is those are secret judges in a secret court based on secret interpretations of law that’s considered 34,000 warrant requests over 33 years, and in 33 years only rejected 11 government requests. These aren’t the people that we want deciding what the role of corporate America in a free and open Internet should be. CA: Now, this slide that we’re showing here shows the dates in which different technology companies, Internet companies, are alleged to have joined the program, and where data collection began from them. Now, they have denied collaborating with the NSA. How was that data collected by the NSA? ES: Right. So the NSA’s own slides refer to it as direct access. What that means to an actual NSA analyst, someone like me who was working
as an intelligence analyst targeting, Chinese cyber-hackers, things like that, in Hawaii, is the provenance of that data is directly from their servers. It doesn’t mean that there’s a group of company representatives sitting in a smoky room with the NSA palling around and making back-room deals about how they’re going to give this stuff away. Now each company handles it different ways. Some are responsible. Some are somewhat less responsible. But the bottom line is, when we talk about how this information is given, it’s coming from the companies themselves. It’s not stolen from the lines. But there’s an important thing to remember here: even though companies pushed back, even though companies demanded, hey, let’s do this through a warrant process, let’s do this where we actually have some sort of legal review, some sort of basis for handing over these users’ data, we saw stories in the Washington Post last year that weren’t as well reported as the PRISM story that said the NSA broke in to the data center communications between Google to itself and Yahoo to itself. So even these companies that are cooperating in at least a compelled but hopefully lawful manner with the NSA, the NSA isn’t satisfied with that, and because of that, we need our companies to work very hard to guarantee that they’re going to represent the interests of the user, and also advocate for the rights of the users. And I think over the last year, we’ve seen the companies that are named on the PRISM slides take great strides to do that, and I encourage them to continue. CA: What more should they do? ES: The biggest thing that an Internet company in America can do today, right now, without consulting with lawyers, to protect the rights of users worldwide, is to enable SSL web encryption on every page you visit. The reason this matters is today, if you go to look at a copy of “1984” on Amazon.com, the NSA can see a record of that, the Russian intelligence service
can see a record of that, the Chinese service can see a record of that, the French service, the German service, the services of Andorra. They can all see it because it’s unencrypted. The world’s library is Amazon.com, but not only do they not
support encryption by default, you cannot choose to use encryption when browsing through books. This is something that we need to change, not just for Amazon, I don’t mean to single them out, but they’re a great example. All companies need to move to an encrypted browsing habit by default for all users who haven’t taken any action or picked any special methods on their own. That’ll increase the privacy and the rights that people enjoy worldwide. CA: Ed, come with me to this part of the stage. I want to show you the next slide here. (Applause) This is a program called Boundless Informant. What is that? ES: So, I’ve got to give credit to the NSA for using appropriate names on this. This is one of my favorite NSA cryptonyms. Boundless Informant is a program that the NSA hid from Congress. The NSA was previously asked by Congress, was there any ability that they had to even give a rough ballpark estimate of the amount of American communications that were being intercepted. They said no. They said, we don’t track those stats, and we can’t track those stats. We can’t tell you how many communications we’re intercepting around the world, because to tell you that would be to invade your privacy. Now, I really appreciate that sentiment from them, but the reality, when you look at this slide is, not only do they have the capability, the capability already exists. It’s already in place. The NSA has its own internal data format that tracks both ends of a communication, and if it says, this communication came from America, they can tell Congress how
many of those communications they have today, right now. And what Boundless Informant tells us is more communications are being intercepted in America about Americans than there are in Russia about Russians. I’m not sure that’s what an intelligence agency should be aiming for. CA: Ed, there was a story broken
in the Washington Post, again from your data. The headline says, “NSA broke privacy rules thousands of times per year.” Tell us about that. ES: We also heard in Congressional
testimony last year, it was an amazing thing for someone like me who came from the NSA and who’s seen the actual internal documents, knows what’s in them, to see officials testifying under oath that there had been no abuses, that there had been no violations of the NSA’s rules, when we knew this story was coming. But what’s especially interesting about this, about the fact that the NSA has violated their own rules, their own laws thousands of times in a single year, including one event by itself, one event out of those 2,776, that affected more than 3,000 people. In another event, they intercepted all the calls in Washington, D.C., by accident. What’s amazing about this, this report, that didn’t get that much attention, is the fact that not only were there 2,776 abuses, the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Dianne Feinstein, had not seen this report until the Washington Post contacted her asking for comment on the report. And she then requested a copy from the NSA and received it, but had never seen this before that. What does that say about the state of oversight in American intelligence when the chairman of the
Senate Intelligence Committee has no idea that the rules are being broken thousands of times every year? CA: Ed, one response to this whole debate is this: Why should we care about all this surveillance, honestly? I mean, look, if you’ve done nothing wrong, you’ve got nothing to worry about. What’s wrong with that point of view? ES: Well, so the first thing is, you’re giving up your rights. You’re saying hey, you know, I don’t think I’m going to need them, so I’m just going to trust that, you know, let’s get rid of them, it doesn’t really matter, these guys are going to do the right thing. Your rights matter because you never know when
you’re going to need them. Beyond that, it’s a part of our cultural identity, not just in America, but in Western societies and in democratic societies around the world. People should be able to pick up the phone and to call their family, people should be able to send a text message to their loved ones, people should be able to buy a book online, they should be able to travel by train, they should be able to buy an airline ticket without wondering about how these events are going to look to an agent of the government, possibly not even your government years in the future, how they’re going to be misinterpreted and what they’re going to think your intentions were. We have a right to privacy. We require warrants to be based on probable cause or some kind of individualized suspicion because we recognize that trusting anybody, any government authority, with the entirety of human communications in secret and without oversight is simply too great a temptation to be ignored. CA: Some people are furious at what you’ve done. I heard a quote recently from Dick Cheney who said that Julian Assange was a flea bite, Edward Snowden is the lion
that bit the head off the dog. He thinks you’ve committed one of the worst acts of betrayal in American history. What would you say to people who think that? ES: Dick Cheney’s really something else. (Laughter) (Applause) Thank you. (Laughter) I think it’s amazing, because at the time Julian Assange was doing some of his greatest work, Dick Cheney was saying he was going to end governments worldwide, the skies were going to ignite and the seas were going to boil off, and now he’s saying it’s a flea bite. So we should be suspicious about the same sort of overblown claims of damage to national security from these kind of officials. But let’s assume that these
people really believe this. I would argue that they have kind of a narrow conception of national security. The prerogatives of people like Dick Cheney do not keep the nation safe. The public interest is not always the same as the national interest. Going to war with people who are not our enemy in places that are not a threat doesn’t make us safe, and that applies whether it’s in Iraq or on the Internet. The Internet is not the enemy. Our economy is not the enemy. American businesses, Chinese businesses, and any other company out there is a part of our society. It’s a part of our interconnected world. There are ties of fraternity that bond us together, and if we destroy these bonds by undermining the standards, the security, the manner of behavior, that nations and citizens all around the world expect us to abide by. CA: But it’s alleged that you’ve stolen 1.7 million documents. It seems only a few hundred of them have been shared with journalists so far. Are there more revelations to come? ES: There are absolutely more revelations to come. I don’t think there’s any question that some of the most important reporting to be done is yet to come. CA: Come here, because I want to ask you about this particular revelation. Come and take a look at this. I mean, this is a story which I think
for a lot of the techies in this room is the single most shocking thing that they have heard in the last few months. It’s about a program called “Bullrun.” Can you explain what that is? ES: So Bullrun, and this is again where we’ve got to thank the NSA for their candor, this is a program named after a Civil War battle. The British counterpart is called Edgehill, which is a U.K. civil war battle. And the reason that I believe they’re named this way is because they target our own infrastructure. They’re programs through which the NSA intentionally misleads corporate partners. They tell corporate partners that these are safe standards. They say hey, we need to work with you to secure your systems, but in reality, they’re giving bad advice to these companies that makes them degrade the security of their services. They’re building in backdoors that not only the NSA can exploit, but anyone else who has time and money to research and find it can then use to let themselves in to the world’s communications. And this is really dangerous, because if we lose a single standard, if we lose the trust of something like SSL, which was specifically targeted by the Bullrun program, we will live a less safe world overall. We won’t be able to access our banks and we won’t be able to access commerce without worrying about people
monitoring those communications or subverting them for their own ends. CA: And do those same decisions also potentially open America up to cyberattacks from other sources? ES: Absolutely. One of the problems, one of the dangerous legacies that we’ve seen in the post-9/11 era, is that the NSA has traditionally worn two hats. They’ve been in charge of offensive operations, that is hacking, but they’ve also been in
charge of defensive operations, and traditionally they’ve always prioritized defense over offense based on the principle that American secrets are simply worth more. If we hack a Chinese business and steal their secrets, if we hack a government office in Berlin and steal their secrets, that has less value to the American people than making sure that the Chinese can’t get access to our secrets. So by reducing the security of our communications, they’re not only putting the world at risk, they’re putting America at risk in a fundamental way, because intellectual property is the basis, the foundation of our economy, and if we put that at risk through weak security, we’re going to be paying for it for years. CA: But they’ve made a calculation that it was worth doing this as part of America’s defense against terrorism. Surely that makes it a price worth paying. ES: Well, when you look at the results of these programs in stopping terrorism, you will see that that’s unfounded, and you don’t have to take my word for it, because we’ve had the first open court, the first federal court that’s reviewed this, outside the secrecy arrangement, called these programs Orwellian and likely unconstitutional. Congress, who has access to be briefed on these things, and now has the desire to be, has produced bills to reform it, and two independent White House panels who reviewed all of the classified evidence said these programs have never stopped a single terrorist attack that was imminent in the United States. So is it really terrorism that we’re stopping? Do these programs have any value at all? I say no, and all three branches of the American government say no as well. CA: I mean, do you think there’s a deeper motivation for them than the war against terrorism? ES: I’m sorry, I couldn’t hear you, say again? CA: Sorry. Do you think there’s a deeper motivation for them other than the war against terrorism? ES: Yeah. The bottom line is that terrorism has always been what we in the intelligence world would call a cover for action. Terrorism is something that provokes an emotional response that allows people to rationalize authorizing powers and programs that they wouldn’t give otherwise. The Bullrun and Edgehill-type programs, the NSA asked for these authorities back in the 1990s. They asked the FBI to go to
Congress and make the case. The FBI went to Congress and did make the case. But Congress and the American people said no. They said, it’s not worth the risk to our economy. They said it’s worth too much damage to our society to justify the gains. But what we saw is, in the post-9/11 era, they used secrecy and they
used the justification of terrorism to start these programs in secret without asking Congress, without asking the American people, and it’s that kind of government behind closed doors that we need to guard ourselves against, because it makes us less safe, and it offers no value. CA: Okay, come with me here for a sec, because I’ve got a more personal question for you. Speaking of terror, most people would find the
situation you’re in right now in Russia pretty terrifying. You obviously heard what happened, what the treatment that Bradley Manning got, Chelsea Manning as now is, and there was a story in Buzzfeed saying that there are people in the intelligence community who want you dead. How are you coping with this? How are you coping with the fear? ES: It’s no mystery that there are governments out
there that want to see me dead. I’ve made clear again and again and again that I go to sleep every morning thinking about what I can
do for the American people. I don’t want to harm my government. I want to help my government, but the fact that they are willing to completely ignore due process, they’re willing to declare guilt without ever seeing a trial, these are things that we need to work against as a society, and say hey, this is not appropriate. We shouldn’t be threatening dissidents. We shouldn’t be criminalizing journalism. And whatever part I can do to see that end, I’m happy to do despite the risks. CA: So I’d actually like to get some feedback from the audience here, because I know there’s widely differing reactions to Edward Snowden. Suppose you had the following two choices, right? You could view what he did as fundamentally a reckless act that has endangered America or you could view it as fundamentally a heroic act that will work towards America and the world’s long-term good? Those are the two choices I’ll give you. I’m curious to see who’s willing to vote with the first of those, that this was a reckless act? There are some hands going up. Some hands going up. It’s hard to put your hand up when the man is standing right here, but I see them. ES: I can see you. (Laughter) CA: And who goes with the second choice, the fundamentally heroic act? (Applause) (Cheers) And I think it’s true to say that
there are a lot of people who didn’t show a hand and I think are still thinking this through, because it seems to me that the debate around you doesn’t split along traditional political lines. It’s not left or right, it’s not really about pro-government, libertarian, or not just that. Part of it is almost a generational issue. You’re part of a generation that grew up with the Internet, and it seems as if you become offended at almost a visceral level when you see something done that you think will harm the Internet. Is there some truth to that? ES: It is. I think it’s very true. This is not a left or right issue. Our basic freedoms, and when I say our, I don’t just mean Americans, I mean people around the world, it’s not a partisan issue. These are things that all people believe, and it’s up to all of us to protect them, and to people who have seen and enjoyed a free and open Internet, it’s up to us to preserve that liberty for the next generation to enjoy, and if we don’t change things, if we don’t stand up to make the changes we need to do to keep the Internet safe, not just for us but for everyone, we’re going to lose that, and that would be a tremendous loss, not just for us, but for the world. CA: Well, I have heard similar language recently from the founder of the world wide web, who I actually think is with us, Sir Tim Berners-Lee. Tim, actually, would you like to come up and say, do we have a microphone for Tim? (Applause) Tim, good to see you. Come up there. Which camp are you in, by the way, traitor, hero? I have a theory on this, but — Tim Berners-Lee: I’ve given much longer answers to that question, but hero, if I have to make the choice between the two. CA: And Ed, I think you’ve read the proposal that Sir Tim has talked about about a new Magna Carta to take back the Internet. Is that something that makes sense? ES: Absolutely. I mean, my generation, I grew up not just thinking about the Internet, but I grew up in the Internet, and although I never expected to have the chance to defend it in such a direct and practical manner and to embody it in this unusual, almost avatar manner, I think there’s something poetic about the fact that one of the sons of the Internet has actually become close to the Internet as a result of their political expression. And I believe that a Magna Carta for the Internet is exactly what we need. We need to encode our values not just in writing but in the structure of the Internet, and it’s something that I hope, I invite everyone in the audience, not just here in Vancouver but around the world, to join and participate in. CA: Do you have a question for Ed? TBL: Well, two questions, a general question — CA: Ed, can you still hear us? ES: Yes, I can hear you.
CA: Oh, he’s back. TBL: The wiretap on your line got a little interfered with for a moment. (Laughter) ES: It’s a little bit of an NSA problem. TBL: So, from the 25 years, stepping back and thinking, what would you think would be the best that we could achieve from all the discussions that we have about the web we want? ES: When we think about in terms of how far we can go, I think that’s a question that’s really only limited by what we’re willing to put into it. I think the Internet that we’ve enjoyed in the past has been exactly what we as not just a nation but as a people around the world need, and by cooperating, by engaging not just the technical parts of society, but as you said, the users, the people around the world who contribute through the Internet, through social media, who just check the weather, who rely on it every day as a part of their life, to champion that. We’ll get not just the Internet we’ve had, but a better Internet, a better now, something that we can use to build a future that’ll be better not just than what we hoped for but anything that we could have imagined. CA: It’s 30 years ago that TED was founded, 1984. A lot of the conversation since then has been along the lines that actually George Orwell got it wrong. It’s not Big Brother watching us. We, through the power of the web, and transparency, are now watching Big Brother. Your revelations kind of drove a stake through the heart of that rather optimistic view, but you still believe there’s a way of doing something about that. And you do too. ES: Right, so there is an argument to be made that the powers of Big Brother
have increased enormously. There was a recent legal article at Yale that established something called
the Bankston-Soltani Principle, which is that our expectation of privacy is violated when the capabilities of government surveillance have become cheaper by an order of magnitude, and each time that occurs, we need to revisit and rebalance our privacy rights. Now, that hasn’t happened since the government’s surveillance powers have increased by several orders of magnitude, and that’s why we’re in the
problem that we’re in today, but there is still hope, because the power of individuals have also been increased by technology. I am living proof that an individual can go head to head against the most powerful adversaries and the most powerful intelligence agencies around the world and win, and I think that’s something that we need to take hope from, and we need to build on to make it accessible not just to technical experts but to ordinary citizens around the world. Journalism is not a crime, communication is not a crime, and we should not be monitored
in our everyday activities. CA: I’m not quite sure how
you shake the hand of a bot, but I imagine it’s, this is the hand right here.
TBL: That’ll come very soon. ES: Nice to meet you, and I hope my beam looks as nice as my view of you guys does. CA: Thank you, Tim. (Applause) I mean, The New York Times
recently called for an amnesty for you. Would you welcome the chance
to come back to America? ES: Absolutely. There’s really no question, the principles that have been the foundation of this project have been the public interest and the principles that underly the journalistic establishment in the United States and around the world, and I think if the press is now saying, we support this, this is something that needed to happen, that’s a powerful argument,
but it’s not the final argument, and I think that’s something
that public should decide. But at the same time, the government has hinted that they want some kind of deal, that they want me to compromise the journalists with which I’ve been working, to come back, and I want to make it very clear that I did not do this to be safe. I did this to do what was right, and I’m not going to stop my work in the public interest just to benefit myself. (Applause) CA: In the meantime, courtesy of the Internet and this technology, you’re here, back in North America, not quite the U.S., Canada, in this form. I’m curious, how does that feel? ES: Canada is different than what I expected. It’s a lot warmer. (Laughter) CA: At TED, the mission is “ideas worth spreading.” If you could encapsulate it in a single idea, what is your idea worth spreading right now at this moment? ES: I would say the last year has been a reminder that democracy may die behind closed doors, but we as individuals are born behind those same closed doors, and we don’t have to give up our privacy to have good government. We don’t have to give up our liberty to have security. And I think by working together we can have both open government and private lives, and I look forward to working with everyone around the world to see that happen. Thank you very much. CA: Ed, thank you. (Applause)

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  • October 25, 2019 at 11:30 am
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    12am October 25th
    Edmonton Alberta Canada 🇨🇦
    Just got in from walking the cat 🐈
    This is an important video
    Thanks TED

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  • October 25, 2019 at 11:36 am
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    👍write down your plans to invade 🌘Mars on paper 📝…then burn it…✨👽👽👽✨

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  • October 26, 2019 at 6:33 am
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    What you think is reality is scripted

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  • October 26, 2019 at 10:19 am
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    I’m surprised that the evil and corrupt elite, even allow this information to be aired.

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  • October 26, 2019 at 3:46 pm
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    MORE HARD PROOF THAT HILLARY CLINTON IS A DIGITAL MONSTER & THE FBI
    In this post, we will prove without a doubt how Hillary Clinton cleverly wormed her way into full access and control for 50,000 FBI encryption keys.

    They are likely managing this empire from Obama’s Google-constructed U.S. Digital Service bunker three blocks from the White House manned by Valerie Jarrett and Eric Holder.

    We admit that these findings sound more like Grisham fiction. But the evidence is a pesky thing. The evidence is now pouring out.

    https://americans4innovation.blogspot.com/2018/09/hillary-clinton-controls-50000-fbi_15.html

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  • October 27, 2019 at 12:46 pm
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    The first step involves bringing back Bonzi Buddy

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  • October 28, 2019 at 12:00 am
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    come on. someone has to say it. Snowden for prez.

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  • October 28, 2019 at 11:15 pm
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    FUTURAMA!!!!!!

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  • October 29, 2019 at 3:39 am
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    The rights of citizens in the united states of apathy is subjective

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  • October 29, 2019 at 3:16 pm
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    So Prophetic, today 2019 many private companies, universities and goverment institution personal and intellutual property hacked, is like the doors never had a lock.👏

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  • October 30, 2019 at 5:40 am
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    Rare vacuum snowden

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  • October 30, 2019 at 2:04 pm
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    Snowden needs a prominent place in the American Govt to help create the " magna carte " for the safety & preservation of the worlds uncensored internet.
    He understands what safety measures are needed to protect our privacy & be able to move the internet into something even more spectacular than it already is. 
    If the USA can not see Snowdens unique intellect & abilities  hopefully he will be part of the global  team who can construct  the  fundamental laws that secure the freedom,  safety  & future of our internet service. It is the right time to start this process.

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  • October 30, 2019 at 5:09 pm
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    Ed isn't just an American and a citizen. He's an INTELLIGENT American citizen.

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  • October 31, 2019 at 3:36 am
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    Funny he mentions 1984 George Orwell. It’s not on streaming services. Gee I wonder why.

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  • November 1, 2019 at 1:40 am
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    Free information and knowledge to all human kind so that we can see how our governments and their agencies manipulate us into conformity. There is NOTHING in this world that shouldńt be questioned and challenged. Truth to all, is the only way we will ever live safely together in world peace. Letting the political lies be grounds for beliefs and actions, will undoubtedly lead to our own extinction.

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  • November 1, 2019 at 7:08 am
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    Edward Snowden is a traitor a deep sleep plant… Julian Assange is a hero….

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  • November 1, 2019 at 8:55 am
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    You cant take back what you never had

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  • November 2, 2019 at 11:02 am
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    HEY POLITICIANS!!!! THIS AFFECTS YOUR KIDS AND THEIR FUTURES TOO!!!! IS THE MONEY WORTH THEIR ENSLAVEMENT 10 GENERATIONS DOWN THE LINE??? If so kindly purge yourself off this planet and goodbye and good riddance…

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  • November 2, 2019 at 1:38 pm
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    Julian from down under can't speak through a tv with legs.. He is almost dead for doing the same if not more…DO SOMETHING

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  • November 2, 2019 at 5:30 pm
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    🤯The only thing I can equate this to is the time I let a woman get raped. I was walking by a field at like 1 in the morning. I heard a woman screaming but I am a little dude and I was tired. I didn’t respond but even 15 years later I still feel like I could have done something and I didn’t. I didn’t want to deal with going up against anyone or any confrontation. I don’t know if it was a woman getting raped for sure but I could have done something the way that Edward Snowden did. The man raping the woman would probably have been very upset with me in the same way that the US government is upset with Snowden. At least he did something. There was this person who was not willing to stand idly by when he knew something was wrong. He is the hero I never have been. At least he won’t look back thinking about what he could have done. The US government was breaking the law. Sorry, but just because you are in a certain type of position where you can break the law in secrecy doesn’t give you the license to do it. The rapist was breaking the law in secrecy too. He felt that just because it was dark and he was behind some bushes where nobody could see him that it would be fine to force himself into this woman. Obama and Trump are both rapists of the American people. They think that as long as nobody can see them it’s fine because they are above the law. But now it’s out in the open thanks to Ed. Reminds me of the Rodney King beating too. Thankfully there was someone there who wasn’t willing to stand idly by while the pigs were killing Mr. King. They filmed it. They took action. I am sorry that I didn’t in the case of that poor woman who was being raped behind some “firewall” of darkness and shrubbery.

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  • November 2, 2019 at 7:42 pm
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    Snowden the real Hero. Respect from Indonesia.

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  • November 3, 2019 at 9:02 am
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    All we should ever be saying to Snowden is 'thank you.' You don't see this kind of bravery very often🙏

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  • November 3, 2019 at 11:55 am
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    i am KC, the 1st Elvis Presley Impersonator EVER framed in 2013 Presidential assassination plot via RICIN letters.

    Read my story in GQ by Wells Tower

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  • November 3, 2019 at 7:41 pm
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    Edward Snowden is a hero. Because of his disclosures, we know better. Face the fear but do something. I thank him for opening my eyes.

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  • November 5, 2019 at 11:24 am
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    2.3 Million views, FUCKYEAH!

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  • November 5, 2019 at 7:08 pm
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    This snooping may have morphed into an Epstein-like blackmail ring. We are all at risk of this manipulation and our representatives in government are not free to represent us under these circumstances.

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  • November 5, 2019 at 10:49 pm
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    Whistleblowers who tell/reveal TruthS that bring BENEFITS to PEOPLE, SHOULD!!! be praised n honoured, instead of being BULLIED; harassed; hounded; prosecuted; persecuted!

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  • November 6, 2019 at 5:15 pm
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    The Whistleblowers of Our World ought to Unite and form a Global Whistleblowers Network to put a Stop to all this Spy verses Spy Policy Mentality that continues to put humanity and all life on our world at risk ! Let's All Grow up and Stop this Foolishness !

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  • November 7, 2019 at 9:19 am
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    im workin on leaving the country as well i seriously want to this country lots of americans are denouncing there citizenship this guy proves you dont have to live in this country

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  • November 7, 2019 at 9:23 pm
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    23:49 he goes to sleep in the morning. he's a night owl.

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  • November 9, 2019 at 11:16 pm
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    The irony of this event being done in a place called “Whistler”.

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  • November 10, 2019 at 2:13 pm
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    being able to globally communicate efficient ways of living symbiotically with our environment and then locally working with others while also utilizing the internet for communication truly proves the power of bringing people together and enlightened.

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  • November 10, 2019 at 2:16 pm
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    why do conversations like this end so shortly….let people leave if they want to but when great minds come together there should be lots of topics worth discussing to find common sense solutions.

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  • November 11, 2019 at 10:45 pm
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    Why are the ‘People’ in ‘Charge are never for the people. Why don’t they realize that THEY’RE people, too? Who decides what the People are ALLOWED to know? Why isn’t ANYONE in charge (don’t they know there’s no such thing as being in charge?🤔) – not ONE of them… realize, and have the balls to say ‘Snowden is Right?’
    I. Don’t. Get. It.
    I pray Ed Snowden lives a long, fulfilled happy life with his wife whom he dearly loves. I pray he has peace and contentment. I pray that these governmental horror shows and whomever tells them what to do get a tiny glimpse of insight about how they’re Fucking up our lives, the world… that’s enough for now

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  • November 11, 2019 at 11:40 pm
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    i wonder if clicking the thumbs up button puts me on the enn ess aay watch list…..????
    gonna click it anyway…

    this guy is a real hero and hopefully what he eluded to earlier in this conversation about more stuff coming out comes to fruition…
    he needs to stay relevant…

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  • November 13, 2019 at 12:09 am
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    The single greatest hero of our times. I'm not sure there will ever be a way to put the Genie back in the bottle though. Thank goodness there are still heroes like Edward Snowden in this world.

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  • November 13, 2019 at 10:56 am
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    You can't take back what was never yours!

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  • November 13, 2019 at 1:39 pm
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    I think that he’s helping Trump. He’s no longer in jail

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  • November 14, 2019 at 11:26 pm
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    The Universe gave us Edward Snowden for this reason he was born an cultivated in a environment that lead to this point. I was waiting for him since the eighties after reading 666, then I was informed in 2009 by a kid that we were being monitored through our electronic devices. Snowden is part of the Revelation, it was he’s destiny.

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  • November 15, 2019 at 12:27 am
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    Look it's a Russian bot. They do exist!

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  • November 15, 2019 at 12:40 am
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    Stop breathing into the microphone. Can't even enjoy the content all I hear is u breathing

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  • November 16, 2019 at 4:13 am
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    Snowden and people like him make us, we from other countries stil love and admire the USA for the smartness and human quality of some of their personalities.

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  • November 19, 2019 at 4:56 am
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    Nothing but the truth. Amazing Guy!

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  • November 19, 2019 at 10:50 pm
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    Amen! Let's do this!

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  • November 20, 2019 at 3:09 pm
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    WE, THE PEOPLE now control the media and facts in a nut shell. it's the people protection.

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  • November 20, 2019 at 4:46 pm
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    May allah gives snowden a beautiful life.

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  • November 22, 2019 at 9:07 pm
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    If only people as these were running the country… the world would manifestly be a better place. These are scary times.. where governments are to be feared. Governments increasingly distancing themselves .. in other words.. the seat of power is removed from the people so far.. our voices are no longer heard.. and we are treated with contempt.

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  • November 22, 2019 at 11:13 pm
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    Published on 16 Sep 2018… Brendon O'Connell

    ISRAEL’S HIGH TECH AND WORLD DOMINATION ASPIRATIONS

    In 1957, “Ben-Gurion, [Shimon] Peres, and a few Israeli scientists were determined from the start that their nation would be far ahead of its Arab neighbors in science and technology. They seriously believed that Israel could be among the top tech powers on Earth, which would guarantee its military supremacy over the much larger nations surrounding it.” – Spies Against Armageddon – Inside Israel’s Secret Wars (2012)

    “In Jerusalem, the United Nations (a truly United Nations) will build a Shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the seat of the Supreme Court of Mankind to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah.” – First Israeli Prime Minister, David Ben-Gurion, Look Magazine 1962

    ( TRUMP MOVES ROTHSCHILD'S CAPITAL TO JERUSALEM. )

    How Zionist is the New World Order | Israel carries in its biblical genes the plan for a world order headquartered in Jerusalem. I’m not talking about a secret conspiracy here: the Jewish plan to rule the world has been plainly outlined in the global bestseller [Bible] for more than two thousand years. – Yahweh to Zion: Jealous God, Chosen People, Promised Land … Clash of Civilizations, Laurent Guyénot (2018)

    Israel ’15 years ahead’ in cyber warfare capabilities | However, the Israeli military does boast some of the most advanced cyber capabilities in the world. !!!

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  • November 23, 2019 at 12:30 am
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    you are confused my friend!

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  • November 23, 2019 at 3:24 am
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    There ain't no such thing as free internet. I'm paying Verizon about 240 bucks a month between my cell and house internet. Thieves

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  • November 24, 2019 at 12:59 pm
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    What if the collection was for an AI ? Manifesting ideas to humains . It would not be hard to know how each individuals and organise any criminal act or threats to anyone you were an AI with so much information and the capability of treating the data

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  • November 24, 2019 at 6:56 pm
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    Snowden is a treasonous traitor. Julian Assange is the real hero. What's the difference? Snowden was a CIA plant within the NSA. Both agencies were doing the same thing, but the CIA wanted to be the sole agency to control all of it. In steps Snowden whose job it was to bring down the NSA. He fooled everyone by pretending his motives were honorable and for the American people. Now we are finding out how corrupt the CIA (the heads) are and how they are controlled by the deep state. Look into lifelog, a DARPA project that is meant to spy on American citizens, it is now controlled by the CIA under the name Facebook. Look into Zuckerberg family.

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  • November 25, 2019 at 1:32 am
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    Edward Snowden for Director of National Security

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  • November 25, 2019 at 10:12 am
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    So much more important with every day gone bye. The real and important work become more and more pressing with every passing moment!

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  • November 25, 2019 at 11:19 am
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    I dont wanna be spied on by anybody especially criminals

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  • November 25, 2019 at 1:22 pm
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    the robot should be same height as dude interviewing, rather than height of a kid. A minor point I know. Surely you could just wind the legs up.

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  • November 25, 2019 at 10:13 pm
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    Should I be flagged for any comments I make about this video !!

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  • November 26, 2019 at 10:40 pm
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    Freedom of speech, democracy, gov of the people, by the people, for the people does not exist. Gov of big pharm, insurance, big oil, endless war, Satan owned news, DOES!! God is awesome and Jesus is a rockstar !!!

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  • November 27, 2019 at 10:18 am
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    I thank Snowden is an American Hero! he did break a rule but he chose right over wrong. I see government destroying the constitution everyday, moving slowly to complete the a full circle right back around to a dictatorship of some sort.

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  • November 27, 2019 at 10:20 am
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    We can tell Snowden is very intelligent and he should run for office one day if he does not get assassinated first.

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  • November 29, 2019 at 12:27 am
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    HERO

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  • November 29, 2019 at 5:57 am
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    Snowden = PSYOP, hence his still breathing…

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  • November 29, 2019 at 8:12 am
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    Ron Paul -Truth is treason in the empire of lies.

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  • November 29, 2019 at 7:55 pm
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    All I can say is however many docs you have put out they cannot take your HERO stance out of you are for the people's and they should realise that the way you have done the things you have done is a totally safe way I cannot see how you can say that I'm going down the wrong road the news I have is just as much ours as your I am a whistle blower I can understand your government needs secrets and I'm sorry about the so called threats but I have thrashed my head out for every single motion I have made and I haven't got my information from you I just wish you could understand that in every country we share the same secrets if you didn't know

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  • November 29, 2019 at 7:57 pm
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    I see country's using the same weapons killing the same life forms doing the same things all around the world so this now is a question of morals and moral fatality we should not give into fatallity

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  • November 29, 2019 at 7:59 pm
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    We must convince our countries that their is ALLWAYS a psychological and sensible way around this

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  • November 29, 2019 at 8:01 pm
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    Vladimir should realise you are a good citizen he should be proud of you

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  • November 30, 2019 at 1:11 am
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    Hail Snowden.

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  • November 30, 2019 at 2:39 am
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    I think we underestimate what he has done for us. In his brand new book, he describes his last days before he whistleblowed. He tried to be as much with his love as he could, and he did usual household chores and general everyday stuff… This tells us that he really loved the life he had, yet he was brave and strong enough to give it all up (at the age of 29…).

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  • November 30, 2019 at 6:32 pm
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    Edward Snowden sounds like a Man that Pres. Trump direly needs in his council. Hopefully the Pres. shall Pardon Mr Snowden. America/World NEEDS Snowden Democrats will SOBBING in fear.

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  • November 30, 2019 at 8:30 pm
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    It's very dangerous to attack an 'official opinion' in the USA. It's a heresy to publish the truth. Reaction: If I'm in the jury, Assange will walk.
    https://www.amazon.com/joaquin-delgado-Kindle-eBooks-Store/s?k=joaquin+delgado&rh=n%3A154606011

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  • December 1, 2019 at 6:04 am
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    Its American goverment of course they lie…

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  • December 1, 2019 at 6:57 am
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    who killed President Kennedy?

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  • December 1, 2019 at 6:58 am
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    Whats up with 9 /11 and did man go to the moon?

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  • December 2, 2019 at 9:10 am
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    The problem with Snowden and Assange, is that they are limited hangouts. They fail the litmus test. They both pretend they believe the government's conspiracy theory regarding 9/11.
    https://youtu.be/YULx2_4zKSM

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  • December 2, 2019 at 1:48 pm
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    The truth is so much deeper than what he's exposing. He's barely breaking the ice. Love you brother

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  • December 3, 2019 at 1:00 am
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    what he said reminds me of 'Treadstone" has been completely dismantled. yeah right

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  • December 3, 2019 at 7:15 am
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    So they can continue to try and blackmail people

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  • December 3, 2019 at 8:13 am
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    Thank you very much for speaking up and telling the truth history has to be rewritten for what it is and what it was not for treason that has been going on for years upon years. Deep pockets hiding secrets lying manipulating everything out there self-centered egotistical arrogant bastards working for 1 agenda 21. It's a shame you have to go into hiding when there so many thieves and liars conn's running around telling us what we should and shouldn't do under there are rules and orders of the new world order.

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  • December 3, 2019 at 5:15 pm
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    They have been many crimes that were solved saying "we found your dna at the scene" that was untrue, they just click on the victim and they have the culprit, that may sound good or bad as not everyone plans to harm a person, drink drugs, crime of passion, self defence, if you were the victims family it maybe good news but if you are the culprits family you will find it unfair as it was out of character or a spur of a moment,
    In America only

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  • December 3, 2019 at 7:31 pm
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    = Conscience Awareness is Rising with every breath we take as this timeline is one of Total transparency ~ even though opaque manipulators are trying to QUELL the Truths that MUST BE REVEALED for the good of the COLLECTIVE !!

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:14 am
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    We honor our patriots if you don't like it you are a damage component and need to shut down because you were made by man and you have flause..bad info pre programmed by bad human and bad dictator..your maker…

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:16 am
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    Guess what if you are proven to be a traitor then you are a traitor..

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:17 am
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    They collected data used by their own words…

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:18 am
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    Collected with warrants and suppena..

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:20 am
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    Not just taking info and saleing it to anyone..it should be protected by Google's and security's on each computer ..

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:24 am
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    Constitution matters..privacy and identy matters …

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:25 am
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    So is dictatorship and. Censorship..treason

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:27 am
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    Face to face or computer or computer free speech matters…it part of the constitution…to mess with it is terraney and treason..

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:28 am
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    It enterfears with elections..

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:29 am
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    America don't trust you and tech now…

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:31 am
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    So why did you allow them to attack and see ours…jobs,business and other things..DEMOCRATES court ( kangaroo court) who not for America..

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:32 am
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    Congress doesn't speak for America..they speak for illigals.

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:33 am
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    Stop saleing our info..

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:34 am
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    Media shouldnt be lieing..press shouldn't dictate for people

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:36 am
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    Ya it our constitution and it don't need communism or other bad info ..controlling it..like Apple..who took our info to china

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:39 am
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    Free speech is just that Free speech good or bad..it doesn't take sides.

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:39 am
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    Can't build on one sided stories..both sides need to be Hurd in order to fix a problem

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  • December 4, 2019 at 5:44 am
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    Just by closing computers..totally

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