(air swooshing)
(upbeat music) – Hey how’s it going, Parker Walbeck here with
fulltimefilmmaker.com and today I’m gonna be giving
you my initial thoughts on our all new $14,000 Mac Pro and comparing the video
editing performance to my current $14,000 iMac Pro. And I’ll also be sharing
with you the specs that I got and what I recommend
getting for video editors. So first, my initial thoughts, this thing is big and it is heavy. Weighing in at 40 pounds
there’s a reason why they have an option to buy wheels because it’s not easy to move around. The packaging, as always, was beautiful, comes with the computer, a
magic mouse and a keyboard. The keyboard has a two toned look compared to the previous
one that was all black and I think I like that better. As for the computer itself, the design and build
quality is tremendous. Everyone’s making fun of
the cheese grater look and I agree it is kind of funny looking but after seeing it in person it’s actually really sharp looking, and even when you take off the casing the internals look really pretty too. And being able to take off the casing allows to easily upgrade
internals down the road, so in theory this investment
should last for many years. Now as for functionality, on the top here is the power button, and two USB-C Thunderbolt ports along with the latch that
you can switch halfway and lift to reveal the internals. Then on the back you have two
more USB-C Thunderbolt ports, along with the headphone
jack, and two USB ports, and then on the bottom of the back you have four more
USB-C Thunderbolt ports, an HDMI port, and dual 10
gigabyte ethernet ports. So no complaints as far
as the functionality other than I wish it had four
USB ports like my iMac Pro because I found that I do end
up using all four of those. So now only having two I’ll probably just have
to buy some more dongles. Thank you Apple. As far as specs go, I had mentioned on my iMac
Pro review two years ago that I maxed out that machine and that that was overkill, and if I could go back
I would have scaled back on some of the upgrades that I chose. So with this Mac Pro I
tried to only upgrade as much as I felt I would need for my editing workflow. Now the base Mac Pro starts at six grand. I then upgraded the processor
from eight cores to 16 cores. My iMac Pro has 18 cores but after doing tests
with lower core models I found that there wasn’t much
difference in performance, specifically within Premiere Pro which is the main software
that I use for video editing and because Premier can
only really effectively use about 12 to 14 cores at any one time, there just isn’t a reason for
me to get much more than that. Also it’s important to note
that the speed of each core goes down when you have more cores, so getting 16 cores
instead of say 28 cores, means that each core will
have 3.2 gigahertz speed versus 2.5 on the 28 core option or compare that to my iMac
Pro that has two more cores but each core has a
speed of 2.3 gigahertz, so 12 cores is probably that sweet spot for getting the most for your money but again I went with 16
cores for a little buffer. Moving down to the next spec, is memory. I upgraded mine to 96 gigs of RAM. My current iMac Pro has 128 gigs of RAM so I actually downgraded
this spec from my iMac Pro, and that’s because after having run tests with my daily workflow, the most RAM I could
get my computer to use while running Premiere Pro,
After Effects, Photoshop, streaming YouTube videos, having multiple tabs open in
Chrome and screen recording, I could only get up to
around 70 gigabytes used at any one time, so 96 gigabytes gives me plenty of buffer especially for my workflow. And in reality, I’ve never actually used
all those things at once so the 48 gigabyte option
would probably be enough for most editors, but for only $300 more I
doubled it just to be safe. And for those asking why anyone would need 1.5 terabytes of RAM, those are for businesses
that are like server hosting and are running way more than just one persons editing workflow. But moving on now to the
next spec, is graphics card. I upgraded mine from eight gigabytes to 32 gigabytes of HBM2 memory. Compare that to my iMac Pro
that has 16 gigabytes of memory, which was probably plenty for what I do, but the Mac Pro just didn’t
have a 16 gigabyte option and I didn’t want to downgrade
from where I’m currently at so I went up to the 32 gigabytes. I also wanted HBM2 over GDDR5, as it’s a newer, faster technology. And even though this upgrade is overkill there are certain functions within the video editing process, like noise reduction
that could take advantage of that added power. But if there was one upgrade
that I was iffy about on the extra money, it was this one. Moving onto the last spec is the storage. It comes with 256
gigabytes of SSD storage, which in my opinion isn’t enough. You’ll run out of space to store files on your
computer really quick. I’d recommend getting at least 1 terabyte. My iMac Pro has four terabytes which I thought would be overkill but my team and I pass a lot of files back and forth between Dropbox, and I like to use the Dropbox desktop app to host all those files locally. Which means I need a lot of
storage space on my computer to be able to access all my Dropbox files. So, I actually almost filled
up all my four terabytes, and so I opted to get the
8 terabyte storage option for this Mac Pro. Again, not a necessary upgrade, not going to help my editing speed, just a convenience upgrade for my file management workflow. As far as the Afterburner card, I think this would have been
another overkill upgrade. My workflow isn’t too intense. The great specs I already
bought should be enough to handle my workflow just fine. So there you have it, those
are the specs that I got that added up to $14,000, which is the same price
that I paid for my iMac Pro two years ago. Biggest difference being that the Mac Pro does not come with a display, whereas the iMac Pro comes with a built-in 5K 27 inch retina display. So that’s the only other cost to factor in when getting a Mac Pro, is that you’ll need to buy a display. And yes I did order the
$6,000 6K XDR Display, but it’s backordered so I
won’t get it for another month, but I’ll give you my thoughts
on that once it does arrive. But I now want to run
a few performance tests to compare my iMac Pro to the Mac Pro to see if for similar prices we get any added performance
for video editing or if you might as well
go with the iMac Pro with a built-in screen. So here we have opened up in Premiere Pro with a Red 6K clip on the timeline. I also did tests on other 4K
files like DJI drone footage and both of these machines
played that flawlessly so we stepped it up to 6K raw footage to start seeing any performance struggle. Our first test we’ll run
is to compare playback on the timeline at full 6K resolution. As you can see they both
playback pretty well however, I have the dropped frame
indicator turned on that shows that they both
dropped a few frames, so probably only playing 22 or 23 out of those 24 frames per second. So it can almost play back
the full 6K resolution. Which right away made me
a little bit disappointed that I still can’t get flawless 6K resolution playback but when I put them
both to half resolution they playback flawlessly,
no dropped frames. Which I usually edit on
half resolution anyway, so that’s not a huge deal,
but for 14 grand I was hoping we’d get 6K playback at full res. Keep in mind though that it’s
not just the computer’s fault, Premiere isn’t fully
optimized for these specs and I ran the same test on Final Cut Pro X and I got smooth playback
at full K6 resolution. Unfortunately, I and
many professional editors prefer Premiere Pro over Final Cut. So be aware that the
full glory of these specs won’t manifest on Premier because of the lack of
optimization of Adobe software. Next I tested out the rendering speed. To render out a one
minute color rated 6K clip it took the Mac Pro 25 seconds
and the iMac Pro 33 seconds. So about a 25% speed
improvement for the Mac Pro. I then tested out exporting speeds. Both exporting a one minute 6K clip to a YouTube 4K preset and the Mac Pro did it in 70 seconds and the iMac Pro did it in 95 seconds. So again, about a 25% speed
improvement on the Mac Pro. And my guess is the
reason why it’s 25% faster is because of the faster of
speeds per core on the Mac Pro. Next I tested out a heavy video
effect like warp stabilizer and I thought the Mac Pro
would again be 25% faster. However, after stabilizing
a five second 6K clip it took both of them about
two and a half minutes with the iMac Pro only
being a few seconds behind, so it’s not much of a difference. So again, a little
disappointed for me to see minimal improvement on
the Mac Pro in this test. Now obviously, tests will
vary from software to software and effect to effect, but it looks like the general consensus is that some things there’s
no noticeable difference and in other things the Mac
Pro was about 25% faster, which isn’t a lot in considering
this is two years newer of a product for about
the same amount of money minus a display. I’d say that that was
slightly disappointing to me, but the specs are pretty similar and they are spec’d out
past what Premiere Pro can even fully be able to utilize. So with beast computers like these it starts to become
more of a software issue than a computer spec issue. So is it worth $14,000? For most people and for most
video editors specifically, no. (screen buzzes) It’s definitely overpriced for the specs and the specs are definitely overkill. I think a sweet spot for
most high-end video editors is going to be picking up an iMac Pro with around 10 cores and 64 gigs of RAM, pricing at around $6,000. If you already have an iMac
Pro is it worth upgrading to a Mac Pro? I don’t think so. They seem pretty similar
in spec for the price but you get a 5K display
with the iMac Pro. So I think for video editors
I’d probably recommend the iMac Pro over the Mac Pro unless you’re planning on maxing this out way more than I did and
or wanting the ability to upgrade the specs down the road. Like for example, adding
in the Afterburner card, which may allow me to playback that 6K full res file flawlessly, but I’m not sure because
I don’t know if Premiere is a supported 3rd party application. I doubt it, and so I didn’t take the risk and just cut my resolution
in half while I edit and save myself two grand. Now, do I regret buying this? Well, since it’s not a significant upgrade from my current computer, it’s definitely not
something that I needed, so there is a little regret there. It will be nice to have as
a second powerhouse machine for our new studio, so I’ll
probably still keep it. But hopefully this was at
least valuable for all of you to learn from these
tests and help you know where to save some money when
you’re buying a computer. Knowing what I know now are
there any specs that I’d change? Honestly, I think I
could have done without the graphic card upgrade at $2,400. I could be wrong but I don’t
think there’s a lot of use for upgrading that for the
type of work that I do. And as you saw in the tests that I ran, doubling my graphic card from my iMac Pro didn’t affect any of those tests we ran. So clearly, it’s not something
that Premiere uses much so that would be the one upgrade that I think I could go without. And the follow up question
I always get to that is, why don’t you just build your own PC, and how much would a custom PC cost for the same specs as the Mac Pro? Now my brother and I
actually did build our own PC at one point, but it took
several weeks of research, and buying and building things and then the PC had a lot of issues that we had to learn how to troubleshoot and in the end it cost us
more time than it saved us in speed improvement and money. And to me that is worth
paying Apple a premium for their products that work much smoother than any I could build. Also, I’m just not a handy guy. But for those who are looking
to build their own computers for similar specs to a base model Mac Pro, I’ve put a link in the
description to a great article breaking down what it would
cost to build your own PC with similar specs to the base model and they projected that
it would be around $3,700. Again, that doesn’t
factor in the Apple design and build quality, the Apple software, Apple reliability and warranty. So yes, you can save quite a bit of money by doing it yourself but it
will cost you in other areas. Now an interesting side test that we did, we also ran some tests on a
maxed out 16 inch MacBook Pro with a 2.4 gigahertz eight core processor, 64 gigs of RAM, eight
gigabyte graphic card and eight terabytes of storage. That comes in at $6,000. Keep in mind if you just get the base one terabyte of storage, which wouldn’t affect your editing speeds, it would come in under $4,000, but here are the results
we got with that machine. Playback on the 6K clip dropped
frames in full resolution and it also dropped
frames at half resolution, but it played back
flawlessly at 1/4 resolution. And the same one minute clip
rendered out took 65 seconds compared to 33 seconds on the iMac Pro and 25 seconds on the Mac Pro,
so about two times slower. And exporting out a one minute
clip took about 170 seconds compared to 70 seconds on the Mac Pro and 95 seconds on the iMac Pro. So again about two times slower. So not bad for a $4,000 machine. Definitely slower but
fast enough for most, a much better bang for buck and it has the advantage of being mobile so you can take it with you on the road. Biggest drawback would
be how loud the fans are on the MacBook Pro compared
to the nearly silent fans on both the Mac Pro and iMac Pro. But there you have it, those are my thoughts on the new Mac Pro. Again, it’s not for everyone but for high-end creative professionals, definitely a great option. For most though I’d probably
recommend getting a MacBook Pro or an iMac Pro for a better bang for buck. Also, as I mentioned I
did buy the 6K XDR Display to go along with my Mac Pro, so I’ll be giving you my
thoughts on that in the future when it arrives. Lastly, to learn more about
optimizing your editing workflow and for more help choosing
a computer for editing, we have a full video in our
course Full Time Filmmaker discussing what to look for in
a computer for video editing and I teach my full editing
workflow in both Premiere Pro and Final Cut Pro X. So make sure to check that out. Links are in the description. To join our growing
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what the course is like, you can watch our free one
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$14,000 Mac Pro vs. $14,000 iMac Pro – Best Editing Computer & Specs?
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100 thoughts on “$14,000 Mac Pro vs. $14,000 iMac Pro – Best Editing Computer & Specs?

  • January 28, 2020 at 1:33 am
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    I realize hardly anyone would spend this much on a computer but it's part of my job as a mentor to my 12,000+ FTF students to test maxed out gear so people can know where the point of diminishing return is to optimize their money. Hopefully this helps you know how to best spend your money for your video editing needs. 🙂

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  • January 30, 2020 at 2:38 pm
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    You assessment about the the Mac Pro value proposition should consider that it will payoff better than iMac Pro or Macbook Pro over time. The Mac Pro chassis + power supply comes in at around $2000 before any other part and you need to buy it only once, from there you can keep upgrading it without the need to pay the apple tax over the years. You can't do that with an laptop or an all-in-one. So past initial purchase, over the years, you will see a massive return of investment with your new modular machine.

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  • January 30, 2020 at 4:07 pm
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    though you can upgrade the new mac pro 🙂

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  • January 30, 2020 at 5:06 pm
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    Anyone else thinks that the cheese grader look like a bunch of Mercedes Car logos

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  • January 30, 2020 at 5:48 pm
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    Nice & Thanks 🙂

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  • January 30, 2020 at 8:43 pm
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    Are those thunderbolt 3 ports on the GPU are full speed?

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  • January 30, 2020 at 8:46 pm
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    Nice comparison video

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  • January 30, 2020 at 8:58 pm
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    So do you wanna be a stupid consumer or a dumb consumer, basically? Capitalism only works because most people are stupid and business needs large demographics of people who can be fooled every single time using the same trick.

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  • January 30, 2020 at 9:20 pm
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    Thank you for reminding me why I left Premier Pro hahah man Adobe needs to sort their shit out

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  • January 30, 2020 at 9:24 pm
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    Thanks for sharing!!!!!!!

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  • January 30, 2020 at 11:08 pm
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    i was about to say it was 16 grand 2 years ago then I realized we are talking about Apple:)

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  • January 30, 2020 at 11:13 pm
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    My iPhone plays 6k no problem

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  • January 30, 2020 at 11:28 pm
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    Upgrading the memory yourself to save the Apple tax would have saved like $1600. Not to mention doing the same for the CPU and GPU which would save thousands more.

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  • January 31, 2020 at 1:14 am
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    I've built many PC's, and been using Mac's.. I really do not understand why people experience problems with PC's.. They are as reliable as Mac's are, even more..

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  • January 31, 2020 at 2:13 am
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    Ditch Premiere, it is inefficient garbage. FCPx with afterburner will more than triple your performance. Thank you for acknowledging it anyway 👍

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  • January 31, 2020 at 2:18 am
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    I bought 5k iMac Vega 48 with 8 core,1tb sad and added 4 64gb = 128gb of ram for less than $4k! I think best bang for buck

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  • January 31, 2020 at 2:35 am
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    Just get a pc or a hacntosh

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  • January 31, 2020 at 2:47 am
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    Rather than purchasing dongles to fulfill your io need, buy a usb pci card to add into a slot.

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  • January 31, 2020 at 2:48 am
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    Apple makes it so easy to upgrade your ram in this machine. You could've easily saved a thousand bucks.

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  • January 31, 2020 at 5:52 am
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    Congrats nice machine , I have the iMac fully loaded . I am having a hard time learning FCP X , Motion , Compressor ,Logic Pro X and MainStage 3. Although I am focusing on Final Cut Pro X but its going real slow , The only thing that stops me from subscribing to Adobe PS , AI , ETC all Adobe is the monthly charges , Not sure is it is easier to learn . Please advice.

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  • January 31, 2020 at 9:09 am
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    B & H has the XDR in stock, So does Adorama no waiting

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  • January 31, 2020 at 11:10 am
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    You are handsome without cap :))))

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  • January 31, 2020 at 12:25 pm
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    Apple is very expensive…"trash" can junk.

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  • January 31, 2020 at 2:14 pm
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    What a load of bullshit on the PC side of things. Why the heck can't you mac people stop with the reliability of PC when your macs are just a PC with a pretty face that can run mac os. Why can't you build a PC or get a pre built pc from nzxt or similar and install premiere pro without problems. Seriously it isn't that hard.

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  • January 31, 2020 at 2:30 pm
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    Got a macbook pro a couple months ago as my first Mac and it was the best decision I've ever made.

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  • January 31, 2020 at 4:54 pm
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    Why don't get a prebuilt pc
    Apple is shit

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  • January 31, 2020 at 5:37 pm
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    you can get pre-built desktop pc for not much more than do it yourself

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  • January 31, 2020 at 8:16 pm
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    This guy: I need 96 GB RAM

    My 2009 Acer Laptop with 3 GB RAM: Crying in corner😭

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  • January 31, 2020 at 11:02 pm
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    New to this channel. Great quality and good flow to the video. May I ask (I don’t have time to look thru this right now) why one would use a Mac Pro and not work with Final Cut?

    Thanks

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  • January 31, 2020 at 11:38 pm
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    This is just absurde. Is everyone blind?! Adobe's software (not just Premiere but also Lightroom etc.) is lacking optimization for so many years. LR Classics cannot event get smooth scrolling on 5K display for years! I am backing you all YouTubers, push on Adobe! Their software is just rubbish in this regard.

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  • February 1, 2020 at 12:03 am
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    I appreciate this video. I think your set up with the iMac Pro and the ultra wide monitor is my favorite for ergonomics and price

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  • February 1, 2020 at 3:06 am
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    The MAC pro is the iMac pro, they do this to test the market, they just adjust the architecture, that's all.

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  • February 1, 2020 at 6:25 am
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    You can get full 6K RAW playback… if you use Davinci Resolve or FCPX on your Mac 😉

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  • February 1, 2020 at 7:13 am
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    The best editing mac is a $3000 Hackintosh…

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  • February 1, 2020 at 8:22 am
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    your mac pro spec is exactly my ideal spec, only thing is I can't afford it -_-"… yet. too bad, I would rather have an overkill machine make my job easier

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  • February 1, 2020 at 8:53 am
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    https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Unidad-disco-duro-SATA-5210/dp/B07JQ2F2WG/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_es_US=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=234A0CWQOLG7P&keywords=8tb+ssd&qid=1580526833&sprefix=SSD+8%2Caps%2C239&sr=8-2

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  • February 1, 2020 at 11:25 am
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    Research time is why you didn’t build a PC? Your playback problem is related to the old, dated, weak graphics card the Mac Pros are specd with, they don’t have Nvidia CUDA. I can shorten your research time: AMD 3960x (24core), MSI TRX40 Creator motherboard, Corsair Vengeance 128GB (4x32gb) memory, EVGA GTX2080 TI Graphics Cars, 4x Corsair MP60 2TB PCIE4 NVME SSD, Dark Rock Pro TR4 Cooler, Silverstone 011 Dynamic XL case, Windows 10 Pro, Adobe Creative Cloud: $5000. Run it at stock, there will be no issues, Plays back 8k RED RAW with no frame drop easily. It’ll smoke every computer you can select from Apple with the entire Adobe Suite. In some cases twice as fast. Or you could build a 3950x(16core)/10980XE based build for $2000, and it would do similar, but would have less connectivity. Premiere works better with better graphics cards, anything you can use a high level Nvidia card on is going to make premiere run faster. Hope that helps.

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  • February 1, 2020 at 4:23 pm
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    Idiot!!

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  • February 1, 2020 at 4:30 pm
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    Wow where do you guys find the money? 14k is literally a car worth

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  • February 1, 2020 at 5:27 pm
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    5:37 Tests

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  • February 1, 2020 at 5:34 pm
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    I personally think it should be an $12,000 Mac Pro and 5K LG Display vs $14,000 iMac Pro, just to be completely fair

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  • February 1, 2020 at 5:43 pm
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    Good thing for me I don’t need anything like either of those computers.

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  • February 1, 2020 at 6:39 pm
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    6:34 so basically Adobe premier is shit, I recommend using Final cut X or Davinci resolve. no other applications are better .

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  • February 1, 2020 at 6:40 pm
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    6:40 I noticed you didn't mention DaVinci resolve, if you can't use final cut use Resolve it shits all over Adobe premier.

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  • February 1, 2020 at 7:18 pm
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    Perfect review for me! Thx man 🙂 high five for you and subscribbed.

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  • February 1, 2020 at 9:07 pm
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    6:30 “at full k6 resolution”

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  • February 1, 2020 at 9:16 pm
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    I made a threadripper 32 core with 128gb of ram for exactly 4k. Its sucks that anything Adobe can't really take advantage of it. However anything 3D on the PC is warp speed. It banged out a 7 day render on an i5 in 13 hours

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  • February 1, 2020 at 10:52 pm
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    Yes, go ahead and switch back to that 2 yr old <$200 AMD RX 580, save that 2400 bucks and have a non useable editing machine. If anything you should regret not upgrading it to the Dual version of the card! For someone who defends their voices of buying an overpriced machine you sure don't know much about how it works. Also that afternoon card doesn't work with your RED footage so why even bring it up? It's not relevant to your workflow, which by the way, it's super not recommended to edit natively off your internal storage with all your files there. Since you clearly have money, try investing in a 10Gb network storage solution rather than burning money on stupidly fast SSDs that do nothing for your workflow.

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  • February 2, 2020 at 1:14 am
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    16 cores in a 14k system

    bruh

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  • February 2, 2020 at 2:33 am
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    why do you need 6k playback? you just can use proxies instead and edit more fluently

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  • February 2, 2020 at 6:00 am
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    Very good comparison. I was expecting more from the iMac Pro considering the extra cores. And I agree with you about purchasing the Mac Pro. I don't see a need for that much processing power for my current workloads. Hopefully next year I will get a newer Mac PC for editing. We'll have to see what success we have this year.

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  • February 2, 2020 at 10:07 am
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    1:21 more like Gigabit

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  • February 2, 2020 at 10:46 am
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    WHY SPEND THAT AMOUNT OF CASH,WAY BETTER OF BUILDING OWN PC WITHOUT THAT BITE OF AN APPLE BRAND DIRTY CASH OUTDATED TRASH

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  • February 2, 2020 at 12:06 pm
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    The only problem I have with the iMac Pro is if you ever have to work on it, on top of having to take off the screen and re-glue it back on when you're done, the power supply is exposed. Crazy for Apple to do that. Like, you could actually die from working on it if you accidentally touch a capacitor or something.

    That said, both PCs are very competent, and in typical Apple fashion they look nice while they get work done. Just, for me, i'd go with the Mac Pro simply because you can upgrade it down the line. Add another SSD or more RAM or whatever. Not something you'll be able to do in an AIO like the iMac Pro.

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  • February 2, 2020 at 12:27 pm
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    Realistically. Would I notice a big difference if I settled for a regular iMac? Upgraded with 2TB SSD, 64 GB Ram, 3.6GHz 8-core i9 processor & Radeon Pro Vega 48 with 8GB? Would that get the job done? Mostly editing 4k in premiere.

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  • February 2, 2020 at 1:03 pm
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    8tb 🤭🤭🤭

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  • February 2, 2020 at 2:45 pm
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    Maybe you should of titled the video "best editing Mac & specs"

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  • February 2, 2020 at 5:58 pm
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    Bro always good and truth video !

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  • February 2, 2020 at 7:35 pm
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    This issent for anybody. Ok, if you have a production house and if 1 day downtime is more than $140,000 in opportunity cost it makes sense, otherwise just get with the program and build a pc

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  • February 2, 2020 at 7:37 pm
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    Winner: Build a PC and save a sh*t ton of money

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  • February 2, 2020 at 8:47 pm
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    WITH DAVINCI I have a 1000 £ computer and I can run 4k and 6k footages smooth as cream

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  • February 3, 2020 at 3:22 am
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    Love your channel. Learnt loads. Thanks man. 🖤

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  • February 3, 2020 at 5:45 am
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    Neither are the best haha

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  • February 3, 2020 at 5:53 am
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    Why are you buying a Mac if you don’t even use Mac Proprietary software??? If you are not using all those cores and you just need a faster CPU make a hakuntosh or buy a PC and then overclock it to 5 GHz. 🤦🏽‍♂️

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  • February 3, 2020 at 9:16 am
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    14k this is stupid ridiculous, and no, it's not that I can't afford it, it's that I don't want to invest in a piece of technology at that price when it's ever changing. People nowadays have enough knowledge online to aid them in building their own computer at a fraction of that, and run just as well. Pure pointless bragging rights.

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  • February 3, 2020 at 12:36 pm
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    "Best Editing Computer"
    Looks only at Macs…

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  • February 3, 2020 at 5:32 pm
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    Not worth it for Premiere.

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  • February 3, 2020 at 8:26 pm
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    Single core aps will don't get much speed up because xeons are outdated and overpriced piece of junk full of security holes and god knows what else is hidden and undiscovered.

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  • February 4, 2020 at 4:40 am
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    Hi, nice comparison but you have missed some important things. You do not have took in consideration the thermal throtteling and the temps. The imac pro run very very hot and all intel cpu when rise over 80-90 celcius goes in thermal protection and drop down the cpu speedd, this high temp are also not great for the longevity of the machine. The new iMac runs cooler and as i've seen online nevew themal throttel, this is better for longevity and performance. Also premier pro is not optimized for MacOs and Amd grafics card. THis program works better on windows with an Nvidia grafics card. If you use a mac normally most user uses final cut because is optimized for the platform. Btw, with a 2060 on a pc built with used parts (total cost around 600euro) i can playback 4k at full quality on premier XD

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  • February 4, 2020 at 4:48 am
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    Excellent comparison at the end with the maxed out 16 inch macbook pro good to know its not too far off of these two machines because the portability is worth the small decrease in speed of rendering.

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  • February 4, 2020 at 5:43 am
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    no way in hell would I spend that much money on a computer, my computer is fast enough.

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  • February 4, 2020 at 10:04 am
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    are you going to return it

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  • February 4, 2020 at 10:39 am
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    I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. $14000 . You can get better performance from so many other machines, including machines running macOS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXg9sMuGxB0&t=684s

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  • February 4, 2020 at 12:29 pm
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    Great video on why you should not use Premiere Pro or AE on a Mac as your main editing workflow.

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  • February 4, 2020 at 4:00 pm
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    a friendly advice, just switch to new creator pcs

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  • February 5, 2020 at 2:50 am
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    or a 5+ port usb pcie card

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  • February 5, 2020 at 3:25 pm
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    Honest question, no snark, aggression, irony or ridicule: why is Premiere Pro used today? Who uses it and why?

    FCPX is MacOS only and might require a mindset of its own. If you're on a PC it's not even an option, so no need to discuss. But DaVinci Resolve is available on PC.

    Dear reader, if you are using Premiere Pro, can you please explain to me why you are not using Resolve? Channels like Max Yuryev/Max Tech as shown for years that FCPX/Resolve are orders of magnitude more efficient than Premiere. And it seems that Resolve is also the software with more future potential—by a large margin. So much functionality, so easy to use, for so little money: free/$299.

    I.Don't.Get.It. And for basic editing it seems you could go directly from Premiere to Resolve as the concept are pretty identical.

    Why is Premiere so popular. I want to understand. I'm looking for: features that I didn't know Premiere had, that makes up for it being Adobe/sluggish, or other reasons like it's easier to crack on Windows(?? but Resolve is free too…).

    Again: save the hate and bring the explanations! THANK YOU.

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  • February 6, 2020 at 3:41 am
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    CAN YOU PLEASE GIFT ME THE BASIC MACBOOK PRO FOR VIDEO EDITING. I WAS REALLY REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT MAKING SOME COOL STUFF LIKE YOU BUT. I NEED SOME GEAR. I CANNOT AFFORD A GOOD EDITING LAPTOP😥

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  • February 6, 2020 at 6:45 am
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    40 lbs… with handles? I've had an IBM IntelliStation M-PRO dual-XEON since 2002; 70 lbs… no handles, nor wheels. I upgraded it frequently until 2005… including its location… moving it to the 4th-floor bedroom of a 3rd-floor, walk-up, duplex apartment. A 70 lbs computer was easy. The 250 lbs Sony WEGA… THAT was hard to move.

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  • February 6, 2020 at 7:17 am
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    Did he check to see if he uses greater than 250 GB of system files and apps? 8 TB of personal/work files could be stored on other storage media… 4 x Samsung 2TB 970 EVO Plus NVMe M.2 SSD = $1600. He got a Mac he could ACTUALLY upgrade himself… sans "Apple tax", or voiding their (fraudulent) warranty. He chose to pay the +50% "Apple tax".

    I know… the 10 minutes he'd spend installing 4 SSDs is more valuable than $800. Because his "day job"… he's a $5,000/hr attorney. When Dershowitz and Giuliani get stuck… THIS is the man they call! 🙂

    I wonder… would any IT professionals do on-site work for under $4,800/hr? I'm sure even Steve Wozniak would charge less than $800 for 10 minutes of "grunt work". smh
    CrApple. Stink different.

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  • February 6, 2020 at 9:12 am
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    Ryzen 9 build

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  • February 6, 2020 at 1:30 pm
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    Hopefully Apple continues to make Apple Motion better for more pro Apple apps 👌

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  • February 6, 2020 at 10:41 pm
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    I "upgraded" from a 2010 17" MacBook Pro to a Custom Built PC equivalent to your $6000 Mac recommendation . . . only it cost closer to $2000

    i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz, 32GB RAM, GTX-1070 GPU, 500GB M2 SSD, 2TB HDD . . . Still to add another 32GB RAM when the budget permits

    Im mostly happy with the value for money . . .the only thing my MacBook Pro still beat the desktop PC on, for some odd reason is focus stacking in photoshop . . . literally 10seconds on the Mac, but 20min on the PC . . . wierd and annoying.

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  • February 7, 2020 at 1:18 am
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    iMac Pro has the same problem as any other iMac, it will get dust inside the screen. After that you can only pay for it to be replaced every year.

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  • February 7, 2020 at 3:27 am
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    Why do you do a water cooling PC if it is the first time that you build a pc?

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  • February 7, 2020 at 6:59 am
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    Is the iMac Pro user upgradable like the Mac Pro? Any part of it (RAM?) and if so what?

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  • February 7, 2020 at 3:33 pm
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    I’d rather buy a car for that price range

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  • February 7, 2020 at 5:04 pm
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    and you connect the mac pro to a 1920×1080 monitor………………..

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  • February 7, 2020 at 5:37 pm
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    this guy buy maxed out top end apple products making me cringe

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  • February 7, 2020 at 5:39 pm
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    did u also buy the apple stand for ur display

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  • February 7, 2020 at 6:59 pm
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    I would have just bought the base Mac Pro + Afterburner card. I would not spend any further money with apple to upgrade this machine it is much more cost effective buy the parts elsewhere

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  • February 7, 2020 at 10:41 pm
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    You could've saved about 500$ just by buying the ram yourself, installing it is really as easy as opening its case plus you get to have the original sticks. For me personally I'd take the base storage and install multiple NVME drives through the PCIe. You could save about 1000$ this way for the same 8TB size plus the base storage.

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  • February 8, 2020 at 12:58 am
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    You just threw away 10000$ pal. You do realize that other manufacturers make desktop PCs? I've maxed out an Alienware and still couldn't get it to be over 4000$. And that's from a reputable company with warranty and everything. And it has a Geforce 2080 ti, one of the fastest graphics cards out there, much better than any AMD card. Nvidia is optimized for Adobe Premiere so it will be smooth at any resolution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnVsfZT1wHU
    You have to be crazy to buy a mac if you're using Premiere Pro. Also, I don't know what your brother did but I never had any stability issues with the computers that I've build.

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  • February 8, 2020 at 2:09 am
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    Absolutely excellent non-biased review!

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  • February 8, 2020 at 12:48 pm
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    If you use Premier, than why you use macOS? Use FCPX please! 😀

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  • February 9, 2020 at 12:22 am
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    If you use premiere pro get a PC. Mac is only better if you need the exclusive software. Get a threadripper pic with 2 titan Rex cards and a 32 core cpu. It’ll probably cost a similar amount

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  • February 10, 2020 at 1:19 pm
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    Build a threadripper system. Only a third to half the cost. More than double he performance. I get that people are willing to pay more for branding and design, and perhaps a bit for iOS which is a pretty good OS. But it's not worth this big of a price difference. 10k.

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  • February 11, 2020 at 4:10 am
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    I could buy a brand new vehicle with those two computers, that's all I'm saying. But they are real nice though.

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  • February 12, 2020 at 2:28 pm
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    at the end of day you will finish work 20 minutes earlier(maybe) , for 14k ?

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  • February 12, 2020 at 2:32 pm
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    only smart ppl go custom and avoid apple, is obvious not to go apple, only not handy ppl go

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